Fyre Trucks

Two 30 degree plates and a 20 on the right.

The first 100 hangers we've done are 6.25", 6.75", and 7.25" in width (159mm, 171mm, and 184mm) and the first 100 baseplates have 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50 degrees of steering.

Many "precision" trucks have two spherical bearings - one in the baseplate's pivot cup and one in the hanger between the bushing seats. A Fyre Truck has one toward the pivot cup and one on the other side of the axle. I changed the orientation of the spherical bearing in the pivot cup area so that it is parallel (instead of perpendicular) to the other. There is no spherical bearing between the bushings which allows for better bushing seats on the hanger and nice TALL bushings. The two spherical bearings are further apart than other trucks which provides more precise steering and less twisting or slop. The kingpin is free to slide up out of the baseplate when tightening the truck. It has a ledge in the middle that supports the bottom cup washer. The two 1/2" locknuts on the pivot pins hold the entire assembly in place. With the locknuts removed, the hanger and kingpin and bushings all come off as one unit and the bushing tension is preserved.

Most all trucks are like a lever in that the hanger hinges in the pivot cup and puts a load on the bottom bushing. The bottom bushing therefore has to do double-duty. It has to take the load (weight) of the rider and it also has to serve as a fulcrum (pivot point) on which the hanger teeter-totters back and forth. You are literally forced to use a relatively hard and/or barrel shaped bushing on the bottom so that it doesn’t get squashed. It is both a part of the steering (pivot) system AND a part of the resistance (compression) system. What makes a Fyre Truck unique is that it isolates the two systems. The steering system is independent of the compression system. The pivot pins and pivot bearings take the load of the rider. None of the load is on the bottom bushing. Because our bushings aren’t load bearing, you are free to use top and bottom bushings that are as hard or as soft as you like. You can use different shapes and sizes, use various types of cup washers, and totally dial in your ride. Taller bushings allow for a greater range of motion meaning that these trucks continue to steer when most others would stop turning and lift your outside wheels during a turn. Other trucks get squirrelly or get the wobs when you hit a rough patch of pavement because they load, unload, and reload the weight of the rider on the bottom bushing. The Fyre Trucks act more like a suspension system. When you hit a rough patch, they barely even sketch and go right back on track. It’s a pretty amazing feeling - one that breeds confidence at speed.

Other interesting factoids:

You can take the locknut entirely off of the kingpin and also remove the top bushing and still ride the truck around. It will use only the bottom bushing with no preload on it.

Hanger swaps are quick and easy and preserve the bushings settings.

If you use different bushings top and bottom it will feel like an “average” of the two durometers.

They can do 70.23 mph and not kill the rider.

100 of them are going on sale next week.

he said thats the SHORT STORY! wait till he elaboratz!

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One question Chris...will the hanger work on most drop through set up's? It looks slightly wider...so I thought there may be a slight chance of hanger bite?

Mischo HAS bent his Fyre Trucks. I guess you failed to mention the fact that he clipped his wheel on a hay bale at about 45 - 50mph and that NO axle is designed to withstand that force. It's like a race car hitting the wall - the wall wins every time. Duh.

You have no idea how much these trucks cost me to make or how much I'm going to charge, do you assfuck? The answers are NO and NO. But you do have a keyboard and mommy's internet access so away you go, soiling your diaper and putting the stink of you out on the web. Who gives a rat's ass what these cost? You're not getting any because you wouldn't even know what to do with something this nice. It's easier to sit back, do nothing, and try to bring down anyone who is out there actively contributing to the sport and elevating others.

So here’s how this is going to play out. I am going to continue to design, test, refine, and distribute the best skateboard products on the planet. When I have something available I am going shout it out from the highest mountaintop and there’s not a god damned-thing that you are going to do about it. Unless of course you think that pissing into the wind is really cool. Go for it peanut. Let’s see how far that gets you.

But what I'm referring to is the fact that you can set up different decks with different baseplates and easily swap out your one-and-only set of hangers and wheels. The extra baseplates aren't all that much money by comparison.

Imagine that I have 1 short speedboard and 2 long speedboards, all of which have flat (horizontal) mounting surfaces. I could have the following 3 choices with only two hangers:

Front / Rear / Wheelbase

40 degree / 10 degree / 33" WB

40 degree / 10 degree / 36" WB 50 degree / 20 degree / 36" WB

Each of these would ride differently. The idea is to have a lot of options and to SAVE money, not to buy a lot of hangers ...

if you are right about his mommy's internet access et fucking cetera, then spewing your macho bullshit at him won't do much except make you more angry.

peace

WOW THESE ARE GREAT five hundred?

SO REVOLUTIONARY seven hundred??

So that's what I'll commit to for now. $200 a truck. If we learn how to source free titanium for axles, free machine time from the CNC gurus, free spherical bearings, etc, the price could drop. Or I'll come to my senses and realize that we are selling Ferraris for the price of a Chevy and try to make some of my money back. I've spent tens of thousand of dollars on machined trucks and to date I've sold one set for about my cost. I welcome any conspiracy theorists out there who think that I'm making any money off of this to preform a thorough reality check before whining about the price.

We'll be offering 6.25" (159mm), 6.75" (171mm), and 7.25" (184mm) hanger widths, and 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50 degree baseplates. You can choose from a wide variety of tall Reflex bushings and stainless steel cup washers.

These truck preform like no other. They aren't just different for the sake of being different. They are superior to anything else that I have ever tried. They have already won the North American Championship at Vernon, two World Cup races including the fastest on the planet, and will be taking a stab at the World Championship in Oz soon. But don't take my word for it. Wait until more and more people have chimed in after trying them. I KNOW that people will dig them because I've been skating for over 35 years and nothing has preformed as well for me.

i wanna hear more from peanut!

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BTW, there's way to win a custom carve board that I'm putting together that has Fyre Trucks, Reflex Bushings, Biltin Bearings, and Centrax Wheels on it. Details on Monday ...

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just another advert....

I was wondering how will these trucks perform when sliding. It's a interesting thing to know for riders that base their downhill skateboarding style on sliding a lot.

Cheers,

Juan

I think that the short answer is "great". Anyime that you have a truck that is stable, leans with a great range of motion, and steers with great precision you have a winner. There's really no downside to having increased traction and control from a truck. You can always use wheels that slide more (Classic Formula BigZigs or FreeRides over the Reflex Formula versions) but if your truck is sloppy and you want more traction, it won't be there when you really need it. Bilting Bearings also really help to reduce chatter and vibration in a slide and they add strength to the axles and system as a whole.

Here's what you can win. Details tomorrow.

42” Canadian maple Big Red X Carveboard

6.50” (165mm) Fyre Truck hangers

50 degree Fyre Truck baseplate (front)

20 degree Fyre Truck baseplate (rear)

Reflex barrel bushings

Reflex stainless steel cup washers

77mm Centrax wheels – Lemon/Lime split durometers (83a/80a Reflex Formula urethane)

Abec-7 Biltin Bearings

X-Bolt mounting hardware

1/8” Khiro soft riser pads

Jessup grip tape

Since the design is so different than a conventional truck, wondering if the trucks can be mounted drop through?

http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/Articles/General_News/Sk8trip_Video_Contest/

From the current front page of Silverfish:

You have ridden the wheels, you have experienced the stoke…now it’s your time to showcase it in the first ever Sk8Trip Video Contest. Downhill, ditches, freeriding, carving, park riding, big hills, small hills, you name it…..Anything that gets you stoked on riding...We want to see it!

Starting on Monday, November 9th we will begin accepting entries for the contest. The contest will end on Monday, December 7th any videos sent in after this date will not be accepted. So get started!

The Contest Guidelines are simple:

1.) All riders in the video must wear a helmet

2.) The video needs to be less than 6 minutes in length

3.) Use any of the Abec 11 / Retro / Pink / subLime wheels in your video

Videos are to be submitted on Sk8trip Contest Video thread on Silverfish, the link for this thread will be available next week on November 9th, the start of the contest. YouTube, Vimeo and any other embedded video player are suggested for the contest. The videos will be rider judged on Silverfish the week of December 7th. Videos will be judged on style, stoke, creativity and unique skating abilities. The most important thing is to have fun!

To celebrate our first video contest we will be giving away a custom one of a kind Big Red X Carveboard made especially for this contest. It features the following high performance components:

[You already saw this …] There will also be prizes for 2nd – 6th place.

Now…GET OUT THERE AND SKATE!

Scram ad camp...

i feel, this "scene" is what made him who he is today, not the opposite....

he doesnt and never has done anything beyond what his marketing mind is after.

im sick of seeing his advertizing here too.

nutz

The world is full of things you may not like or want to see. The ability to ignore stimuli is actually an evolutionary adaptation, so why don't you try using it.

These are revolutionary trucks. Chris was showing what they are and even trying to hook people up with special deals for bushings and what not.

I don't ride for abec 11 either.

Don't like it? Don't read it.

Either way, LET'S SKATE!

info@sk8trip.com

just a guess, I have no idea but just trying to help

And also, cool looking. And also, if you drop em to 300 you will sell so many more and make more in teh end. the difference between 300 and 400 is a deal breaker for so many people

wah wah 400 dollars.

speedboarding is the cheapest sport i have ever participated in. maguns are even affordable IF YOU HAVE A JOB AND DONT BLOW YOUR MONEY ON DRUGS

so quit tryin to freeload and fork it out if you want expensive experimental truck designs. OBVIOUSLY THEY PREFORM AS ADVERTISED MISCHO JUST FUCKING SET THE NEW SPEED RECORD ON THE BITCHES

look at fucking snowboarding, bindings boots boards , OR wakeboarding, where you spend at least a hundred or more an hour on gas for the fucking boat, not even counting your expensive ass wakeboard IM NOT EVEN GETTING INTO AUTO TUNING OR MOTORSPORTS

2nd off. a lot of longboarders are into the sport cuz its cheap and fun. if shit starts getting crazy expensive then it will be like all those other sports you named and a big part of it is keeping it cheap so that it can stay waht it is

you dont have to buy 400 dollar trucks just to longboard, noobs can buy cast trucks and happily skate for years without even knowing about high end cnc trucks, but for those who have the money [or who have saved up 20 bucks off each paycheck for months to SAVE FOR SOMETHING] you can buy this gear IF YOU WANT no-one has a gun to you saying that you need this and cant skate without them

let me reformulate this for you is the computer your reading this on yours? well, just because computers are fun doesnt justify YOU spending money on it. when you could just as easily go to the library and check your email there. or rock out with an iMac from '95

and why DONT you do this, because YOU want that luxery. Just as I WILL PURCHASE these fully knowing that its totally exuberant to have more than one set of CNC trucks, but that MY MONEY and I'll Spend that shit where i want.

just think for a second how long it took the engineers clicking away infront of screens, staring at CAD drawings. Time is Money fucko, and 400 bucks aint too expensive. Bottom Line is if you dont want it, dont buy it, but what you can do, is quit bitching about the "expensive luxery skategoods" being too expensive for you. GET A FUCKING JOB OR SAVE SOME MONEY AND QUIT BUYIN DRUGS stop buying fast food, stop buying weed, stop buying starbucks coffee, stop buying this than and the other thing that you dont need, and use that money to buy something else you dont need. either way, shut up or buy it. either or. you dont get to just run your mouth and whine. no one cares, and chaput sure as shit aint gunna cut you any deals for your tears.

Anyone working 40hours a week at ANY job should be able to afford these if they aren't blowing there money on something else.

The only real innovation I see here is finally someone has taken skateboard truck design out of the 1960's and brought into the modern era.

The Fyre design is really no different than this: [img]http://www.mbs.com/productcart/pc/catalog/12012.jpg[/img]

this - [img]http://www.mbs.com/productcart/pc/catalog/12020.jpg[/img]

or this - [img]http://www.mbs.com/productcart/pc/catalog/12020.jpg[/img]

Although I admire Chris for his constant attempts to bring innovation to a very rigid discipline, as far as truck design goes, the only thing new about his design is that it is new to skateboarding.

Michael Poindexter.

you cant afford it ? dont buy it or save up.

fuckin idiots

all chaput is doing is gettting a good laugh from all you dicks

hahahahahaha

and seriously 100$ less sell more? who cares!

go into a porshe dealer and see if they will start selling for lower to sell more.

hes got something good and hes gonna run with it and props to him for that

I know how all of those trucks work. The MBS Twin Pin truck is a little blurry but I know it was designed to function in the exact way as the Fyre truck.

The Fyre truck uses the two horizontal bearing points in the same way as a channel truck uses a horizontal king pin.

The Fyre truck would still work if you took out the vertical king pin and bushings. It would not work if you took out the two horizontal bearing points.

Again, I compliment Chaput on his innovation. Although it is not a new idea, it is new to skateboarding. Anything new to skateboarding is an advancement. As an industry, skateboarding is not very innovative.

So do your own research and find so better ones, you puntz.

i wonder if chaptits will replace the hanger fo freee

Chaput needs to see why that is.

Who would have thought that the all of the stresses of an axle bearing on the axis point of the truck at the spot where there is the least material would bend?

There is a reason for the channel on channel trucks.

This truck never bends.

http://www.nosno.co.uk/snosite/images/Boards/profs_large.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q1dyW07vBRo/Smjd2IUXJOI/AAAAAAAAA4Q/Hucfo7jZQ-s/s1600-h/howla+mtbrd+trucks.jpg

How do you post pictures to this web site?

http://www.design-extreme.co.uk/img/Carbon_Ti_Tex.jpg

i used to buy entire boxez of green wheelz just to find 4 round onez for racing..... i wonder if the zame goez for his trux..

5 zetz to find 1 aligned zet of axlez = $2000!!!!!!!!!!!!!

immagine if you run a complete abec board!!!!! wow, probably a $3000 zetup before you find anything acurate... ho ho ho...

doez $$$ buy accuracy????? or juzt fancy and complicated?

nuTz

But, as someone who has raced with you for nearly 10 years, I gotta call you out. Hardly anyone else has the balls to post a name or real questions. I've been following everything you've been doing since we've both been doing this for so long. I'm curious.

Where are the products you've promised?

The Fyre trucks are bending, why?

And I pissed in your gas tank, so did you notice that your car was running funny?

I saw this problem from far off. The axle housing needs to be beefier and supported more. I mean, I dont know whose fyres those are, but I do know that they only had a couple runs on them before they were bent.

Id love to try these more than I already have, and love to see them being used, but not before the axle situation has been fixed.

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The truck seems to incoperate every style of machining possible haha cast, cncd and welded? 100 bucks for each process and a 100 for chappy!!!

Mr Chaput, excellent truck design But i have to disagree on the above points. I have never been forced to use a harder barrel on the bottom of my trucks. I always have and always will use soft bushings in all my boards, including my race boards, I have never encountered this thing you are talking about.I can totally dial the ride of any truck in the way you illustrate. And lastly, so what if the trucks get squirly on rough road, squirly is fun, skateboarding is meant to be fun. A non squirly skate is boring in my opnion.

Anyway. blah blah blah

they are pronounced "fire" but spelt with a "y"

Fyre

What the fuck is he doing at 2:10? Is this what Chaput is trying to do to us?

come on now...

funny, since the photo of the faulty chaput combo showed up, we havnt heard from him since...

no more long winded rebuttles from you chappy??? you had a lot to say earlier, why not anymore???

KnUtZ

I think Chris has a good idea with trying something different with the triple kingpin. If the trucks don't work out, shit happens. Get over it, make improvements, and produce the next generation with the rider's feedback.

I'm way past the point of relying on a company to produce a truck that I like. If you want something specific, make it yourself, or get a friend with the skills to help you out.

Thankfully here in Ontario we have two amazing riders that will hook us up with boards, trucks and other parts.

I'm wondering... titanium is lighter, but would it be stronger/less chance of fatigue than steel in a truck application?